Patent Application Number: 2008249172
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Ben McEniery (over 2 years ago)
Diane,
These last two prior art references look like they anticipate the invention to me. Good work.
Ben
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Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
There has been no comment on this topic for 17 days. Does that indicate that there is no further action or discussion? As I'm new to this I'm confused and concerned. I would like to participate in some way but am unsure of how to proceed. For example, am I able to contact the patent application author, or will they be contacting me, etc.

Craig
Mik Clarke (over 2 years ago)
The overall process here is that that Australian Patent Office has 'lent' us a number of patent applications. We're making them available for public discussion for a period of 90 days. At the end of that time, they will be returned to the patent office along with any submitted prior art and the discussion, at which point the Patent office will consider the prior art and discussion in its evaluation of the each patent application and then make a decision about whether or not to grant the application.

That discussion has stopped could mean that people think they've got enough significant prior art submitted to sway the patent office towards denying the patent. A single piece that really embodies the ideas in the patent and which clearly predates it should be sufficient - but if you've got the time you can keep looking for more.
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Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
Sorry for posting so many comments but I like to try and cover all the bases.

Picture Slots also allows a player to create a "Theme". What this means is that a user can select a background, build their own buttons, and also create Reel. So, a Reel can have a consistent look about it with matching backgrounds and buttons.

Hope this makes sense to someone.
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Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
An archived copy of the web site is at;

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ps.craigedgar.com

On this site you can find archived copies of most web sites. Hope this helps you! It shows that Picture Slots was around in 2004.

Craig
Ben McEniery (over 2 years ago)
Hi Craig

That looks like it could be an excellent resource. I think you should nominate it as a prior art reference.

Ben
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Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
I now have a better understanding of what this web site is about and wish to make the following comments on the Patent Application;

1) I have source code for Picture Slots dating back to late 2006. Version 1 of Picture Slots was created back in 2004 or 2005 from memory. Thus far I have not been able to find any backup copies of the earlier source code, but am sure it will turn up at some point. It’s unlikely I have deleted it even though it is obsolete.

2) Picture Slots is a Slot Machine Simulator which works on the same principles as “actual slot machines”. It employs bonus features to gamble winnings in the same way as others do.

3) What makes Picture Slots unique is that users can create their own Reels to play using their own Digital Photos. Photographs stored in an Industry Standard JPEG Format can be imported via a program called “The Set Builder” which sizes, converts, and arranges the images into an appropriate format and exports them as a single entity into a “Reel” which can be played by Picture Slots.

4) In addition to creating their own Reels, users can upload their creations to our Web Site for sharing with other users. All Reels uploaded are vetted by myself for quality and suitability for sharing.

5) A Reel is composed from eight single images plus one larger image. Each of the single images are used to create the spinning reels whilst parts of the larger image are spread throughout the Reel. To win the “Jackpot” the player must get the larger image pieces in correct order to form a single picture.

6) Bonus features allowing the player to gamble their win are included. Currently there are two features and I intend to add more. Which feature is played is selected randomly when the “Gamble” button is pressed.

7) I have been working on a “Jackpot” server to spread winnings amongst many Picture Slots players. Participation in remote winnings is optional. A percentage of a player losses is stored on the “Jackpot” server and a single participating player is given the total of accumulated losses.

8) Reels can be password protected to keep images private. A password protected Reel is encrypted using Industry Standard BlowFish Encryption Technology and are “almost” impossible to decrypt without the correct password.

Picture Slots has worked this way from version 1. The ability to create your own Reels was the basis for its development and isn’t something I added later.

I have not applied for a Patent for a couple of reasons, 1) the cost, 2) wasn’t aware a patent on software was available.

Regarding reason (2) the technology I use is nothing special and there is nothing secretive about it. It is something I created to simply make it different from all the other Slot Machine Simulators.

I am currently looking for archived copies of the web site which was originally ps.craigedgar.com before it became www.pictureslots.com
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Ben McEniery (over 2 years ago)
Mik - I think the Picture Slots prior art submission you put forward is spot on. I will give it a thumbs up. The only addition I would make is to say that the prior art is software that can be downloaded from the URL Mik listed in the prior art reference. Also, I hope there is enough evidence to put before the patent examiner to prove that this feature was used in the software before the priority date.

Does anyone out there know Craig Edgar (the creator of this software)? It would be good to get his take on this.
Mik Clarke (over 2 years ago)
He gives a contact email for product support on the web site and his snail mail address and phone number are in the help PDF that I uploaded. Are we allowed to contact him?
Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
Hi Ben,
My name is Craig Edgar and I wrote Picture Slots. I must say I'm confused by what this patent thing is all about, can you enlighten me? Is someone suggesting that I have infringed on a copyright or patent? There are millions of slot machine simulators out there, have I been singled out?

Kindest regards,

Craig
Mik Clarke (over 2 years ago)
Basically, someone has applied for a patent for 'a virtual slot machine where the player can choose the symbols'. This patent application is one of those that has been passed to the PeerToPatent program for public review.

I'm one of the public reviewers. When I saw the application, I thought 'I'm sure I've seen one of those before', and did a google search that landed my your Picture Slots program. As it appeared to implement the idea described in the patent and to have been around since before the priority date on the application, I submitted it as prior art. This prior art citation will, eventually, go to the patent examiner who may use it as a basis to deny part or all of the patent application.

What would help from you would be any older, dated versions of Picture Slots (or its web site) that you have showing when the ability for the user to supply their own customized reels was implemented. I'm not sure if there's a process for submitting a statutory declaration, if you don't have any older versions or backups on hand.

I take it you didn't apply for a patent on the idea when you implemented Picture Slots?
Craig Edgar (over 2 years ago)
I've posted some Picture Slots information into this discussion, maybe I should have replied to this post so that you would be notified. It explains that there are no trade secrets or any new technologies used in Picture Slots, it was simply an idea to improve game play. I have found an archived copy of the web site from 2004.

I can see similarities with the application and Picture Slots but must admit I do struggle to make sense of the "wording" of the application, either it is badly written or I'm not as clever as I thought I was.

Craig